Hi all
Some advice please from all of you who have been feeding raw longer than I have.
How often should you worm if feeding raw? At the mo we are worming (and tick/flea treating) our hounds every 3 months. I have read somewhere you should worm more often, but how often?
Any help appreciated.
Spring

Do they have worms? if you pick up and check their pooh's regularly you should see if they have them. Worming isn't preventitive medicine, it only clears them if they have them. You can worm them and they can get them a week later. So surely it wouldn't be an issue what food they eat?

Saying the above, someone is going to put me right now with raw feeding and worming!

Hi Spot - I feed raw and have been advised to worm every 3 months using Panacur. Apparently if you worm more often it can cause auto-immune disease

Hi all
No they don't have worms just looking for more info.
Spring

Lurch8252 wrote:


The raw food that is given can be an issue. It is mainly raw offal as a tapeworm that can cause Hydatid disease in Humans and dogs lives in the liver. The Welsh Assembly advises not to feed dogs raw offal, to worm 3 monthly and not let dogs scavenge on carcasses.
I cook the liver/kidneys/lambs hearts that my dogs have.

Ive always fed my hounds on raw tripe from the same supplier for the last at least 10 years and never had a worm infestation I could claim came from the food usually it,s from my cats!!
I also feed pasta which I cook the night before and vegetables in a stock and I use a greyhound kibble or lowest protein biscuit never had any problems.
Interestingly tonight there,s a post on the Falconry forum regarding "Wagg" dog food in the biscuit form, a lot of falconers dog,s have had stomach upsets with apparantly an increase the artificial colouring used. Seems to have a lot more "Red" in the mix.
I avoid colour at all times.
I will admit to being "Old Fashioned" re-feeding but a past article in the newsletter referred to Miss Noble,s feeding advice and I prefer to bow to her knowledge except I just can,t boil sheeps heads!!!!

Oops meant to add I worm reguarly and use Panacur!

well dare I say I have not wormed any of mine for quite a while (runs away and hides before being yelled at...)

seriously - I have always checked poos, and found nothing to suggest they have worms. I may have to rethink, purely because when I was with my ex, the hounds were exercised on our own land, and there were no other animals etc on it...whereas now I don't have the luxury of my own property I'm taking Leah out into the local countryside, so I guess there's more chance of her picking something up.

I just don't like using chemical wormers, and I've not really seen any other effective alternative

someone suggest that carrots were good to reduce worms?? Absolutely NO idea if that is just a myth

I worm every 3 months, not because I feed raw but more due to the grazing habits of the hounds. There is lots of Roo and Possum poo around here
I use Paratak Plus which is just like Drontal but cheaper

I feed mostly raw food and worm about every 3 months, although it does sometimes slip out to 4 months.

Pam

I cook for Murphy, mince, carrots, brocolli, potatoes, whatever is in the fridge really, boil it up for about 20 minutes and he has 50/50 wet and dry, I mix it with Omega complete for working dogs. I worm Murphy if and when necessary. I've never seen a worm in his pooh's, the vets suggest every 3 months, but it is more like every 6 months for me. I know when he needs worming, his body weight drops off slightly and he eats for England (or Australia, America!!!)

I don't have private land to walk on, I walk on country land or golf courses where there are plenty of wildlife.

My boy is too spoilt to eat anything raw, I tried once and I got the look "I wanted it slightly sauteed"!! so never bothered again. The mince he eats is humans, not pet mince.

Oh and I use Millebemax wormers, but as the price has gone through the roof and they are presctiption only, I am going to switch to Drontal and buy online!

Watch the brocoli (sp) I was told not to give the stalks but florets okay can,t remember the source who told me but Ive never used the stalks.

Ooh, going to read up on that now! He's always had the whole lot of brocolli, I used to mince it up in the food processor, but now just cut his veg up.

I'll try and find a reference to that!

OOh this forum is just so handy!


Right re: Broccolli, I've just looked it up and the only thing toxic from dogs eating broccolli is it gives them wind! (Murphy doesn't do this either - too much of a gentleman, besides, the terrier does it for both of them)!!!

It advises adding broccolli 'stalks' to their food to prevent cancer and promote good antioxident levels, though no more than 10% of their meal should be broccolli, which giving the size of their meals it wouldn't be.

So broccolli is fine, stalks an' all! Onions are bad, as is garlic and raw potatoes, though I do give Murph the odd clove of garlic as it takes away any bad breath smells, but not very often.

We feed butchers dog mince which we cook along with james welbelloved biscuits and any scraps they usually get broccolli on a sunday as our sons refuse to eat it and it gets dropped on the floor accidently

farnorth wrote:

He He - accidentally 'on purpose'. My sons did exactely the same thing. It's amazing how inventive they can be if it means getting rid of something they dont like. My eldest son (now 30)had to have a dental brace when he was about 10 - he hated it! I went to go out in the car one day and noticed something under the back wheel. Yes, it was the brace. He had put it there hoping I would not notice and run over it Didn't work though

Thank you for broccoli stalk information I wasnt sure but it did stick in my mind must have been the "toxic" bit as for wind I,ll stop giving it to my husband!!!!

Well I'm glad the Brocolli stalks are OK as I give them to mine. Lockie can have some wind but funnily enough it doesn't smell.
But Xena on the other hand must have picked something up and suffered the consequences. She was rancid and obviously off colour. Thankfully it only lasted for 12 hours and didn't occur when she came to bed.

Mine get fed raw ocasionaly, including offal,
i worm once a year and have done for the last 6 - 7 years,
none of them have shown any signs of having worms, even when they have been wormed,
none have shown worms in there poo's, they do get garlic in there food about 3 times a week,
other than that nothing, same with fleas, have only ever had to de-flea once in the last 13 years.

Liz if you dont want to use conventunal wormers,
theres a lot of people been raving about Verm x,
its all natural, have never used it myself - so dont know how good it is,
but it isnt very cheap.

www.verm-x.com/

I have used Verm X on my chickens and my horse as with all natural remedies it is given over a longer period only problem is I had to resort back to conventional wormers when I moved the horse to a livery yard as it was their policy all wormed with one dose on same day and kept in.
I got given some sample tablets at crufts from Verm X stand but not enough to cover one hound! So can,t add anything re-the effectiveness of it.