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Deerhound crosses 1 year, 8 months ago #28193

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There are two strays (said to be deerhounds)I believe they are deerhound crosses. Both needing a home together. They are in the Dogs Trust the Canterbury centre.They are dogs approx 2 years old. If anyone is looking.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 8 months ago #28195

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Just had a peep - no photo's up so difficult to say if they are deerhound x's. One says deerhound and the other says deerhound cross. Hope they find a good home soon. There was a deerhound in the dogs trust sailsbury center a few weeks back but thats been rehomed now.

It weird how there is no deerhounds for rehoming for ages then all of a sudden the re seems to be few about.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 8 months ago #28214

How did I know Houndy would be on the rehoming websites!

Do you think this is down to recession?

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 8 months ago #28218

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Lurch8252 wrote:
How did I know Houndy would be on the rehoming websites!



Are you suggesting that Houndy needs rehoming ?

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 8 months ago #28232

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rehome me with a millionaire and I can have loads of deerhounds

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28507

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I am looking for a deerhound lurcher bitch puppy. I already have a deerhound lurcher dog. He has had a fab life. My hubby is a countryside warden and takes the old dog with him everyday up the woods and moorland. But hes getting a bit tired now and prefers to stay at home and relax on his sofa some days.

I have been looking for one for ages but am finding it difficult to get a straight cross.

We would love a deerhound bitch but they are a bit too expensive for wardens wages.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28517

Before we got Murph, we too were looking for a Deerhound lurcher. After visiting people offering lurchers for sale (what a joke, more like mongrel) and coming away we decided on the Deerhound. There are people on this site that look on the rescue sites and post dogs on here looking for homes, keep an eye out. Have you ever thought about rescuing a Deerhound? Again, these do come up from time to time. Good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for because it sounds any dog lucky enough to come and live with you, will have a great life.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28526

Good luck with your search, the true first crosses are few and far between, beware imitations and don't rule out a pure breed

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28535

Something I've learned from this forum is how much lurchers are loved in the UK. I find this amazing since I didn't even know what a lurcher was until I joined up here. Turns out that there are those who might even prefer a lurcher to a purebred deerhound!!!

That got me interested so I ordered Jon Hutcheon's The Lurcher: A Complete Guide 2007 to find out more. He has a chapter that discusses the various lurcher crosses. There's the sighthound to sighthound crosses (Long dogs) which include Deerhounds, some Salukis, and mostly Greyhounds. He said the Whippet tends to be used as a 2nd cross within a sighthound to sighthound line. The other sighthounds don't make good lurchers (sorry, just the author's opinion Go ahead and love your IW, Afghan, Borzoi and Ibizan crosses as much a you want ).

Then there are the terrier crosses, esp. the Bedlington, the Bull Terrier, and the Whirrier(which includes most other terrier crosses besides the Bed. and BT). But wait, there are even more crosses that can be classified as lurchers! The herding crosses, with the Border Collie and Bearded Collie being the most common, but the Australian Cattle Dog is becoming the latest "in thing" for working lurchers. Finally, some lurchers are even gundog crosses, particularly the Labrador, Spaniel and Retriever lines.

All this being said, for a lurcher to be a lurcher, it must have some sort of sighthound blood in it.
Ironstone Deerhounds

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28541

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A Whirrier is a whippet x terrier

Kelpi's are starting to be used aswell, basicaly a lurcher is any hound type
crossed with another working type dog - collie being the most popular.

Kaye posted this a while ago on LL.
it comes in handy when people want to know what one is.
This is a "how long is a piece of string" question................lots of things ARE Lurchers and equally lots of things AREN'T. The accepted wisdom is that a Lurcher is a form of sighthound crossed with another working type of dog ...typical example is a Greyhound X Border Collie. This gives you a hunting dog with speed and brains.

However, a Lurcher is a TYPE of dog NOT a breed....so there are many different crosses which are Lurchers. Some of the most common are :

Saluki x Greyhound
Bull Terrier x Greyhound
Bedlington Terrier x Whippet
Bearded Collie x Greyhound
Border Collie x Greyhound
Border Collie x Deerhound
Jack Russell Terrier x Whippet


but there are endless variations- the crosses are normally chosen for their ability to work a particular quarry. For example a Saluki x has the speed and stamina to work hares, a Bull x has the tenacity and strength to work foxes, a Bedlington x makes a good rabbiting dog. The terrain can also play a role in the dog's make-up - the vast open spaces of the Fens and Moors mean a bigger dog can find its pace, but the small drystone walled fields in parts of Yorkshire and Derbyshire mean a smaller dog with a quicker turning speed would be of more use.

There are also Lurcher x Lurcher strains, which the owners can trace back through generations of careful breeding and throw a certain "type" of dog. It's quite common at Lurcher shows for knowledgable folks to say "that looks like a Joe Bloggs dog" and be right

There are also a lot of unscrupulous folks who have jumped on the bandwagon and breed anything they think they'll make money out of....some of the dogs even being stolen for this use!

These days not all Lurchers are used as working dogs and many enjoy a life of luxury lounging around on the sofa Cool but it's still important to try and research what type of Lurcher you're going to own, because the behavioural traits of the parent breeds really DO influence the behaviour of the pups too.



You might find over were you are lurchers are called staghounds
www.dogbreedinfo.com/staghound.htm
Jane

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28552

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Any "Sighthound" crossed with any other breed can be described as a "lurcher" in the UK..a recent lurcher show here was won by a greyhound x bull terrier put back over a greyhound bitch...the result a very nasty..fast and headstrong dog..it was a good worker...but liked to kill other dogs..especially terriers and beagles...total tally five...and after killing 8 sheep one night was destroyed...
Many crosses are totally unsuitable as pets..so please do your research properly...the dog homes are fit to burst right now..they dont need any more..
A good book is Jackie Drakefords "Traditional working lurcher" in which she talks about "smithfields" "tumblers" and "cattle dog" crosses..(only really useful for long slow courses) or rabbitting over ferrets..
Stick to a traditional lurcher cross type that is tried and tested..and dont forget...temperament is everything...no good having a fast dog if it wont behave itself...oh..and unless you are killing foxes(now illegal,and I dont condone lawbreaking)..stay away from Bull crosses...

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28554

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Theres nowt wrong with Bull X's - HB,

Have a few friends who have bull x's and there fantastic dogs,
although i will say first x's are a little more crackers then other crosses.

Another of jackies books which is good - is the house lurcher.
Jane

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28560

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Sorry...maybe should tar 'em all with the same brush...but the two I have known have both been psycopathic killers..
Mind you..I'm not talking Staffordshire Bull terrier crosses here...they are great...
American Pit bull crosses is what I'm on about...should have been clear....bull crosses not staffy crosses...
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Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28562

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It can depend on how there brought up and how they are bred,
we have a few bull crosses in on LL, and except for one, that needs to have an
experanced owner, the rest are soft as butter.

Edited to reply to your edit lol.
have met one or two pb lurchers and they have been no different to other bull types

Friends bull x - shes bull/grey/whippet we think,
although is tempermental with other dogs- not within her pack, shes fantastic with both adults and kids.

Jane
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Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28587

I have twice come across Deerhound/bedlington crosses and they are quite gorgeous, like miniature deerhounds really.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28598

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mktinns wrote:
I am looking for a deerhound lurcher bitch puppy. I already have a deerhound lurcher dog. He has had a fab life. My hubby is a countryside warden and takes the old dog with him everyday up the woods and moorland. But hes getting a bit tired now and prefers to stay at home and relax on his sofa some days.

I have been looking for one for ages but am finding it difficult to get a straight cross.

We would love a deerhound bitch but they are a bit too expensive for wardens wages.


If you go to Epupz website there are 1st x deerhound lurcher pups being advertised in Carmarthenshire. The breeder has a good reputation locally and his pups are stunning.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28648

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I know a lad who breeds deerhound first X,s(doxhope deerhound),if you PM me i can help.ATB,TREVOR.

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28649

Our first Lurcher was Deerhound/Bearded Collie/Greyhound, he just looked like a blonde Deerhound, but with brains!
The answer to someones earlier post, would people rather have pure bred Deerhound or Lurcher, my hubby would have another of the same crossed Lurcher any day. He loves Murph, but prefers a dog that is not so....obstinate! Who's obstinate? Murphy obstinate? never!

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28650

Hello,

Can a KC- or AKC- or CKC- or FCI- breeder make a official Lurcher litter?

Thanks for your information.

Best regards
Joerg and Yoki

Re:Deerhound crosses 1 year, 7 months ago #28653

No, they are cross breeds. I think the Labradoodle people are trying that one!
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