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Denise
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Last night was a warm still night, i had ordered my new lamp but could not wait ! out we go with the torch,As we walked round the feilds not a bunnie in sight, i am new to lamping so was only going on hear say, as what to do. We gave up after the 3rd feild and headed up the road, as i shone my torch into the road edge feild i saw a pair of eyes watching me, It was a fox,i lent on the gate squeaking the fox on the back of my hand, Alfie stood still watching the fox get closer, There was cows and a bull in this feild so no way could we go in, with that Alfie spun round on the lead me a heap on the floor, a fox had also come up behind us, Alfie was excited now !I quickly picked my self up and put the lamp back on the fox in the feild, it was now sat there watching us, Alfie did a low growl, now he new to look down the beam. With that the fox left probably laughing at the floor show, But ohh what fun, brusies and all. 
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Theres not been a lot of rabbits round latly, dreded mixi is back with force again,
from what ive been told the perfict conditions to go out are light wind,
light rain and half moon.
I went out last weekend with some frinends bushing, it was to give the terrier
some training, although the dogs didnt put up anything - it was fantastic to see the terrier and the 2 lurchers working together.
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Don't know much on this-Is the objective hunting by getting the rabbit/fox to freeze in the lamp light and then kill it? What is bushing? I wouldn't do the killing bit personally, but am interested to understand the activities.
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crackadog wrote:
Don't know much on this-Is the objective hunting by getting the rabbit/fox to freeze in the lamp light and then kill it? What is bushing? I wouldn't do the killing bit personally, but am interested to understand the activities.
The object is to get the rabbit to freeze, then you slip the dog - the dog follows the beam
and catch's its pray, with fox you can use a single dog to fluch it only to the gun, if its gone in to hiding
Bushing its just sending the terrier in to the undergrowth and letting the terrier
flush the animal to either gun or waiting lurchers, you can do it really at any time of day,
it also gets the dogs and owner working together as a team.
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Thanks for the info - at least I understand what's involved now.
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Think i should also mention the legal side of hunting,
hunting deer, fox, hare or any mamal is illegal with dogs,
unless flushing to a gun and only in seasion for deer,
rabbiting and ratting is legal, but only on land you have permision on,
so before going out to even hunt make sure youve got writen permision,
although it doesnt call for it to be written, its peice of mind for you,
as its harder to prove verble permision.
i do have some links somewere on the legal side,
but will have to dig them out.
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My husband was out laming when my 2nd son was born. We had our Lurchers and a Saluki back then (20 years ago) My hubby and his brothers all had Lurchers and were very competitive with one another. He went out with one brother to 'test' the new Saluki, they walked round one huge field, then he decided to come home "just in case" as I had been having mild labour pains earlier. He arrived home to 2 Police Officers, 2 Paramedics (one being my Mums neighbour - how embarrassing) couple from over the road and the Lurcher that got left behind with the terrier! All fun and games, son arrived safely about 6 minutes later - at home - unplanned and all because of Lamping!
The Paramedic also had a daughter the same age as my daughter and I saw him nearly every day for the next 2 years dropping his child off at playgroup - even more embarrassing 
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I have used my terrier to flush with my hound, to chase is what they've been bred for. The terrier shakes with exitment at the word 'rats' and for the hounds it's 'rabbits' I think it's the triger word.
I love hunting and so do my animals, what is the problem?
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Back on topic! My terrier loves hunting, though he is nowhere near like what our Patterdale was like. I tell him to 'get them out' and off he goes in the bush, with DH waiting on the outside ready for anything that is flushed out. Great team work and we have never taught them, they just do it themselves.
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No problem dela - just adding the law side of things as well to the
thread, as thouse who are intrested in knowing more, need to know the law sourending hunting as well.
On the subject - took Penny and Layla out this evening over the fields,
Penny loves going out just before dusk, with her being an x worker,
she livens up and i see a totaly different girl, shes had a lot of problems this last month or so - so though i'd give her a treat, we have a lot of mixi at the moment,
so off to the fields we go, nothing around - except a dead mutalated rabbit,
Penny tried to nibble at what was left and Layla decided it needed burying, so she spent 10 minuites using her nose to try and cover it up with all the grass 
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You are right they just know what to do. I am suprised that the deerhounds don't eat the terriers. I suppose they know that would meet with severe scorne, or they like their little friends.
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Sounds like Alfie had great fun. Pardon my ignorance BUT so is it legal to go after a rabbit & not a hare ? What if you got thought it was a rabbit but it turned out to be a hare ?
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OMG lamping is soooo not legal in Canada. Very naughty business here. I'll bet the dogs love it though.  Lurch your birthing story ... I didn't know whether to laugh or cringe. Talk about an awkward situation that goes on literally for years. 
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In England you can hunt rabbits with dogs and grey squirrels, but not hares and red squirrels.
I am so glad my birth story gave you a laugh or a cringe! I have just come back from Tesco's and low and behold, the ambulance driver was in there, still blushing 20 years later!
Just read a copy of the Shooting News, there is a story in there of 3 guys having their dogs confiscated for lamping/hunting. These must be serial lampers! because unless you can prove that someone has gone out with the intention of hunting hares/fox/badgers etc, it is very hard to prove. If you are out, dead of night, sighthound by your side, lamp and any catch with you, how on earth would they prove it? Most of us go out, with just dogs, purely to walk our hounds, if something gets up, then there isn't alot we can do about it, luckily we only have bunnies to chase, no hares, and I keep him on the lead where the Muntjacs are.
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Alfie is now going out every night now,our new lamp has arrived, We still have not caught a rabbit yet !But he thinks he is doing a wonderfull job,And he is a good boy and comes back as soon as the bunnie is gone, He sleeps like a log,and likes a lie in in the morning,I did read in country mans weekly if you feed raw bunnie you have to freeze it for 3 weeks to kill of any tape worm, as thay also are in the tissue as well as in the guts.But i think we are a little way of this yet 
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Lurch8252 wrote:
In England you can hunt rabbits with dogs and grey squirrels, but not hares and red squirrels.
I am so glad my birth story gave you a laugh or a cringe! I have just come back from Tesco's and low and behold, the ambulance driver was in there, still blushing 20 years later!
Just read a copy of the Shooting News, there is a story in there of 3 guys having their dogs confiscated for lamping/hunting. These must be serial lampers! because unless you can prove that someone has gone out with the intention of hunting hares/fox/badgers etc, it is very hard to prove. If you are out, dead of night, sighthound by your side, lamp and any catch with you, how on earth would they prove it? Most of us go out, with just dogs, purely to walk our hounds, if something gets up, then there isn't alot we can do about it, luckily we only have bunnies to chase, no hares, and I keep him on the lead where the Muntjacs are.
Unfortunaly not - police are clamping down now, one bloke got pulled and charged few weeks ago just for walking his lurcher late at night, he didnt have any catch or lamp with him and only lived down the street from were he was pulled, they did let him go - but never removed the caution, its one resion i did mention the laws sourending hunting.
After today i know layla hasnt any pray drive at all, but she does think its a game and trys to take the other dogs out lol.
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chook wrote:
Lurch8252 wrote:
In England you can hunt rabbits with dogs and grey squirrels, but not hares and red squirrels.
I am so glad my birth story gave you a laugh or a cringe! I have just come back from Tesco's and low and behold, the ambulance driver was in there, still blushing 20 years later!
Just read a copy of the Shooting News, there is a story in there of 3 guys having their dogs confiscated for lamping/hunting. These must be serial lampers! because unless you can prove that someone has gone out with the intention of hunting hares/fox/badgers etc, it is very hard to prove. If you are out, dead of night, sighthound by your side, lamp and any catch with you, how on earth would they prove it? Most of us go out, with just dogs, purely to walk our hounds, if something gets up, then there isn't alot we can do about it, luckily we only have bunnies to chase, no hares, and I keep him on the lead where the Muntjacs are.
I think if I were the guy with the Lurcher I may have taken this further. What on earth did the Police charge him with? walking his dog? He would have won this in a court of law and I think the reason the Police let him off with a caution was because had it gone to the CPS, there would have been insufficient eveidence for a prosecution. I find this wrong. If you were to ring the Police with an emergency, they wouldn't arrive to help you, they would be out threatening dog walkers!
Unfortunaly not - police are clamping down now, one bloke got pulled and charged few weeks ago just for walking his lurcher late at night, he didnt have any catch or lamp with him and only lived down the street from were he was pulled, they did let him go - but never removed the caution, its one resion i did mention the laws sourending hunting.
After today i know layla hasnt any pray drive at all, but she does think its a game and trys to take the other dogs out lol.
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As far as i know he is on about taking it further,
cant remember the area, but its somewere in yorkshire,
there pulling up anyone manley lads out walking lurchers,
and taking them in.
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Do you know, thinking about this more, this could be bad for Lurcher Rescue, if people think that they could end up with a caution or a criminal record just for walking a Lurcher, not many people are going to be that keen on giving one a home.
I do hope this fella takes this further, this copper needs to be put in his place. There are so many bad things going on in this world and so many irresponsible dog owners that get away with being just that 
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I read recently on the news that police were clamping down on dogs out coursing for hares. I think it was in Lincolnshire. They were threatening to seize dogs and the owners cars if they even thought that they may be coursing for hares. From the tone of the news story it seemed that they would do this to anybody they even suspected may be coursing and that it was highly likely from the police's attitude that innocent owners could be caught up very easily just for parking their cars by fields to walk dogs.
This does seem to be a very worrying trend.
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